Hello, I'm Jacquie Jones of Jones and Associates Law PC and the Jonesing 4 Justice podcast. And I know you can probably hear a lot about, so I have noise and I'm sorry for that, but that's because I am working outside. Well it is a late evening. I've been at a full day at work and today I want to talk about some interesting topics and as you can tell by the title is pretty provocative. Um, basically we don't care about girls, um, how you can rape one for free and get away with it essentially. Um, I know that's a horrible topic, but it's , it's horrible because it makes me very, very angry. I mean, in my head I keep hearing Michael Jackson singing over in a loop. All I have to say is that they don't really care about us. So why does this come up? Well, the news has been talking about the school bus driver who raped a 14 year old girl but got no jail time.

And yes, it's safe to say he raped her because he was convicted. Um, and it is appalling. I mean, we've heard about these rapists. You get away with it like Brock Turner and all these other people who get very short sentences. But this new spate of cases is appalling to me because you think after the outcry from these other ones that they would have learned their lessons. But apparently judges never learned , or they just don't care. I guess that's why it's really important that when we look at judges, but we picked someone more than just a political shill or someone who says, I want to be a judge. I have opinions. Well anyway, so we're looking at this upstate New York school bus driver and I'm looking over at this case and he pled guilty to raping the 14 year old girl who was on his bus route.

Now I have 15 and 16 year old girls. So obviously not too long ago at 14 year olds and they were taken buses. In fact, one of them was leaving out the house like six o'clock in the morning and going with the bus driver to a private school when she was going there was pretty far away. Um, and the idea that my child's not safe with the people who are supposed to get them to and from school- Disgusting, terrifying. And even as a criminal defense attorney, really, really indefensible. So the judge said that Shane Piche , P I c h e was 25 years old, was sentenced to 10 years probation unless register as a sex offender, but not even forever. Um, but he escaped jail time because he had no previous arrests. That's right. And I had been arrested. Means that you can go ahead and rate the 14 year old, taken away something and she can never get back her innocence, her childhood.

: And it's okay because, well, you didn't rape anyone else before. Now imagine that. I mean, we're so hard on things. I drugs you didn't sell drugs before, but we'll throw you in jail for it. Oh, well you won't get to murder one person for free. How about that No. How about you rob one store for free- No jail time. No, but apparently raping little girls. Um, that's perfectly appropriate and perfectly okay. Sickening. The judge, James P McCleskey said probation was an appropriate sentence because peach had no prior arrests and only had one victim. Like I said, you can rape just one girl and not go to jail. That's some old bs. So , he pled guilty to third degree rape and he met the girl when he was on his job as a bus driver. And, and it's funny how, because they said he had sex with her in his apartment.

: He didn't have sex with her. He raped her. She's 14. It's not sex. It's rape. Let's stop making it seem like it was some kind of choice. Now that already happened. And then I'm scrolling through the news and I see another one where a man avoids prison time for holding a teenage girls is sexual captive in a dog cage. A dog cage. Now the thing that's interesting about that, this man is from Gwinnett county in Georgia. Um, which I know kind of well since my sister lives in Gwinnett. Hey! and he's a 33 year old man. And Michael Wysolovski He was also sentenced to 10 years probation. I mean, what is it about ten years? Well, we just keep you on probation for 10 years. The fact that you have assaulted teenage girls, well that should all just go away. Ridiculous. And he pled .

: He did eight months of jail time after pleading guilty. Thursday to third degrees, excuse me, first degree cruelty to children and interstate interference with custody. So here's the deal, he's getting 8, and he's getting the credit for the eight months he spent in detention. Basically probably couldn't pay his bail. That's why he did the eight months and, but he's not going to go away to state prison and that means he's not going to do any additional time. The rest of his nine years and four months, he will have to register sex offender for life. But the rest of his nine years and four months on probation, unless he gets in trouble. Now here's the deal. He was arrested in 2017 after North Carolina police found, well, Georgia police found the 17 year old girl from North Carolina who he had in his home. Now, here's the deal, the deal, they met in an online forum and she apparently was not happy.

Um, and he decided that the 15 year old who was unhappy should come and meet with him and she did. So she ends up, um, he picked her up when she was 16 on an interstate near Charlotte, which is near where she lived, takes her to Georgia. And they're saying basically he can't be charged with child molestation because the age of consent is 16 in Georgia. Here's the ridiculousness about that. What is the age of consent in the place where he took her. Because if you take a child across state lines for purposes of immoral moral activity or sexual purposes or something like that, you don't get to say, well imagine this Utah, the state of good age, consent may be 13. I'm not saying it is, but let's say it's 13 someone takes my child from Pennsylvania who is a 13 year old and then takes her to Utah and to have sex with her.

Do you think they shouldn't suffer for what they did, which is basically kidnapped the child of the state of Pennsylvania to take her to do something that would be illegal in our state because it's legal there. That's some old BS too. Now the girl is named, obviously she's sexual assault victim, but she agreed to enter into a consensual relationship and 16 year olds do that. Like that's not surprising, shouldn't to clear the screen. 16 year olds do that. But the problem is is that after awhile she had issues because he would refuse to acknowledge when she said he was using excessive force, they had safe words. She didn't have glance to see. He didn't you know, acknowledge the safe words. So basically he decided that because she consented once, she was consenting again and again and again. Even when she made it clear that she was no longer consenting and obviously when he no longer, when she know her consented, he decided to do other things like using food to punish her. R. Kelly anyone? And because the girl was anorexic, he would say, you know, he, he control her own food and forced her to perform sexual acts in exchange for allowing her to eat. Um, he was originally charged with rape, aggravated sodomy, first degree cruelty to children and interstate inference with custody. Um, but the rape and the aggravated sodomy charges were dropped in the plea deal,

The family, however, did prioritize that he register as a sex offender, which I guess is important, but that doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, he didn't get bond. That's why he did any jail time at all, because maybe 10 years (probation) would've been enough with no jail time again, because we all know that you can rape one girl for free, right Isn't that we've learned today's podcast rape one girl for free. Awful. Now, the other thing is, is that during the victim impact statement, the girl's father said she was found mal nourished with ringworm and suffering from that back problem s because she had been repeatedly held in a dog cage. That the psychological damage that he damaged that he inflicted was beyond imagination. And it sounds beyond imagination. So I guess what I'm trying to figure out is, is that what part of the game was that?

When did it become okay for judges to say that even in horrific cases involving teenage girls who have been sexually assaulted, that is okay not to give jail time to perpetrators. Perpetrators who admit admitted their crimes, copper traders who were caught in the act perpetrators who have done horrific and an unspeakable things to children. We need to stop sexualizing girls into women and saying that because they are interested or they're pretty or they look old or whatever it is, that they're not capable of being raped or that they're not capable of being, um, harmed. And we need to also stop saying that boys, will be boys and that they should get a free pass. If it's your child that's harmed, do you think the perpetrator is entitled to a Free Pass? I know, I don't. I know that, um, these cases might have been different had it been my 15 or 16 year olds at those ages. Cause I think in the question would have the, the title would've been lawyer indicted for murder and something along the lines of should, should this lawyer be convicted after killing the person who raped and held her daughter captive.  So you let me know what you think. I definitely know what I think and I have no problem sharing it with you. But you tell me what you think about these type of issues, whether or not it's okay to not get jail time in those situations. So again, I'm Jacquie Jones and have a great day.

Hello, I'm Jacquie Jones, of Jones & Associates Law PC and Jonesing 4 Justice, the podcast. And this is take five, take five. Because I had been trying to do this video, I did it three times yesterday and this is my second tape today. And maybe someone is trying to keep me from recording, but I will do it via a Webcam and I will deal with it later. So why is this so important that I talk about it It's important that I talk about it because it's an issue facing not just women, but sports in general. So we're talking about rules. Surrounding, women in their bodies, not transgender women. Um, biological women. And why am I saying this Because the rules that I'm actually talking about, people think of as a transgender role that actually, and this case is not being applied in that way at all.                                                                                                                     
So if you know anything about me, you know that there are some sports that I enjoy and I enjoy watching women in them. One of them is Ice skating. I mean figure skating is a beautiful thing and women doing that, it's amazing. Thinking back to my childhood, there w who has made a resurgence in popularity with some new documentaries out there. And I always thought that she was great and athletic and wonderful, and she was doing black flips. Even men couldn't do it. And they were saying she wasn't grateful enough and she wasn't, you know, in the vein of the sport, which was bs because the sport wishes that they had that kind of athleticism. And nowadays they want more and more people can do more athletic feats. Uh, but that was always an issue about what it meant to be a woman.

Now I understand that women and men should be separated in sports for obvious reasons. Um, the fastest, strongest man is going to be stronger and faster than the fastest, strongest woman. As a general physiological thing, our bodies are different. It doesn't mean there aren't great and amazing female athletes. There are 100% are. Um, but I understand why these sports are separated. That being said, um, issues have come up as it relates to around to transgender, uh, athletes. But this is not even about that. And so the way that, um, the international athletic is something I am, whatever, the way that I decided to deal with these roles around women is basically to say let's determine what feminine the womanhood is. Yes, we already know that people were born biologically male or woman, but they are now making determinations, not they still what your physical parts are, your sex and what goes along with it.

They have decided they're women athletes must have less than a certain amount of Sasha and their system. And I think that that became something that really came to play as it relates to the specific South African athlete who was a woman. The biological woman who lives as a woman in competes is a woman and who naturally has higher than average, um, levels of testosterone. Now mind you, there's one study that they're basin on the talks about, um, you know, these things and as a result they created a set of roles that would eliminate this woman from being able to participate in sport that she dominates 800 meters specifically. Um, because, um, her body naturally that's something different than what they think average. People do. Think about how weird it is. The average woman is not an elite athlete. I mean, I know that if I ran 800 a lot, first of all, I wouldn't run the 800 because I don't think I can run the 400. I can walk the 800, but I can't run it. So, you know, I don't feel like I should be part of what average women are anyway as far as when it comes to a lead athletes, we're not on the same plane.

We're not on this. I'm not even in the picture. Um, as she is. So it is ridiculous. And talk about what average women do then. Even if you talk about average athletes, um, you're conditioning your body shape, all those things are or different. So the fact that they are telling this woman that in order for her to compete and the sport that she has dominated word and she's good at, as a natural woman, what she is is that she'd had to take actual hormones to lower her testosterone level. I'll call bs and the play, hi, I'm drinking. I had the my Disney Women Villains Cup because somebody is a villain here and whether it's guerrilla Deville or Ursula, the witch or the Queen, and this case is the IAAF and the court. The international court that said they were okay to discriminate. In fact, they basically said, yes, we agree this discrimination. We just happen to think this discrimination is okay in order to protect the integrity of women's sports.

There is no integrity in the sport that says in me as I am, as a woman is not good enough or it's too much or not enough. Because see that's what they're saying. Well, she has too much this past summer when she's too much of this, which means she's not enough woman. She's not enough. That, and quite frankly, I am sick of men determining what is and what's not appropriate for women. If God made me this way, this is who I'm going to be.

And if God made me elite athlete, I'd be running a 102 girl's sister. I'd be end those Olympics, like watch affect the way my daughters are supreme athletes been, you know, thinking about, in fact, I've been practicing for years. Um, my face and my, my cry when they win the Olympics because you know, they do the commercial with the moms. It kind of goes like this.

Yes, I've been practicing. Now are my kids going to make it to the Olympics Likely not. But I mean the abilities in ways that I don't and that, I mean right now my daughter is the hae and the other ones also running. So maybe they'd be, this will be the thing. It wasn't gymnastics for us. It wasn't soccer, it wasn't a basketball. But maybe, maybe track and field can be our sport. They're in high school. It can happen. But the long and short of it is if somebody says that it's okay to keep poking and priding my children because we want to test their womanhood,

I'm not happy. And you know, mommy l for free. So we might be in court too. Um, I think it's interesting. I mean you look at athletes like Michael Phelps was the goat when it comes to swimming. I love that goat greatest of all time and he apparently it makes some kind of extra lactic acid or something like that will supposedly gives him an edge when it comes to his swimming. He also has an abnormally long feet right there, practically flippers and you're seeing them, which may also give them an edge. Does anyone say that he has to reduce the amount of lactic acid that he produces Does anyone say that he has to cut off a couple of toes, his toes, her more length Other peoples No, because it's okay to be a man and be a high level athlete and use your natural body ability on top of the work ethic that you put in to create a great league athlete.

But for some reason a woman who takes her natural body ability and puts it with the work that you have to put in and becomes a great athlete. Suddenly she should be taking therapies, which by the way have other side effects. It might have been harm her in general, but could make it to that she can't even compete with the silo. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous and it should not stand. So what do you think about this I'd love to know what other people think. I mean, I'm not going to agree with you if he thinks something else, but I'd love to know what you think. In fact, there are people out there who think, no, she should not be able to compete with women. Then what does she compete with men Because she is not a man. She's not a man and she doesn't have all the physicality of the man. And it goes back to a lot of prejudices that I think, um, have been incumbent upon much of our world for a long time. When we determined that certain people, um, should be a certain way. If you get my thinking. So what I'm going to do is sip my tea and think about all the villains out there. You don't deserve Caster Semanya. You don't deserve her. She is out there and making the world great for women runners running fast, being who she is, giving great, great pride to South Africa, which they deserve for having created this wonderful writer and their myths. And the world is out there trying to find ways to keep her down. So sister girl keep your head up. I support you. and you let us know what you think. This is a short episode because I have recorded five times now. But you let us know what you think. You can follow us on our podcast Jonesing 4 Justice, or you can find us on Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, Instagram. I'm at Jones & Associates Law, PC , have a great, great day.